Béarlachas

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  • #36928
    macdara
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    Glan suas i do dhiadh. So reads a sign I saw recently. Now , I know it’s not quite right. In Irish you don’t clean Up or Down.But…I was kind of stumped as to how one should say it correctly. Any ideas?

    #45999
    Héilics Órbhuí
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    Béarlachas or not, it is probably how most people say this. I’ve even heard native speakers saying it. Really, the word “glan” by itself should be adequate in place of “glan suas”. De Bhaldraithe has “glanadh” as “to clean up”, along with “glanadh a thabhairt do rud” = “to clean something up” and “déanaim glantachán” = “to clean something up”. Focloir.ie has “glan suas”, which appears to be alive and well in modern Irish parlance, despite being an obvious calque.

    #46000
    macdara
    Participant

    Maith agat …yes people are telling me their teachers would use it. Ah well. Gaeilge dona : níos fearr ná gantannas Gaeilge…

    #46001
    macdara
    Participant

    Ach…cad faoi ‘dún suas’ instead of dún do bhéal? Is it a bridge too far….?

    #46002
    eadaoin
    Participant

    but is “éist do bhéal” better?

    #46003
    Héilics Órbhuí
    Participant

    Is é an difear ná nach bhfuil “dún suas” sa gcaint, go bhfios dom. “Dún do chlab” nóÂ “dún do bhéal” mar a deir tú.

    #46004
    Labhrás
    Participant

    Is é an difear ná nach bhfuil “dún suas” sa gcaint, go bhfios dom. “Dún do chlab” nóÂ “dún do bhéal” mar a deir tú.

    Deirtear “dún suas” i nGaeilge Chonnacht
    m. sh.:

    Dún suas do chlab anois agus ith suas an seanbhrochán (“Banríon Álainn an Líonáin” le Micheál Ó Conghaile)
    Dún suas , a dheaide , agus ná bí do mo chraiceáil (“Filíocht agus Feannadh” le Cóil Learaí Ó Finneadha)
    As ucht Dé ort agus dún suas do chlab mór nó cuirfidh mé fata siar ann .(“Sna Fir” le Micheál Ó Conghaile)
    Dún suas. Níl an giúmar orm . (“Sách Sean agus Scéalta Eile” le Micheál Ó Conghaile)
    Airiú dún suas do chlab! (“Téada Dúchais”; Máirtín Ó Briain agus Pádraig Ó Héalaí a chuir in eagar)
    agus ba bheag nár dhúirt mé dún suas. (“Deoir Ghoirt an Deoraí” le Colm Ó Ceallaigh)
    Dún suas , a chladhaire , agus ná habair nár chuala tú caint ar Phlapa Stróicthe , ar chuala ? (“Tórramh an Bhardail” le Colm Learaí Ó Finneadha)

    #46005
    Héilics Órbhuí
    Participant

    Suimiúil… níor chuala mé riamh é. Ach níl mé i mo chónaí ann, ar ndóigh.

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