- This topic has 14 replies, 1 voice, and was last updated 11 years, 7 months ago by
.
-
Posts
-
Chuile sheans go bhfuil sé cloiste agaibh go minic gur as Túr Bháibil a fuair na Gaeil a dteanga, ach an raibh a fhios agaibh cén chanúint a bhíodh á labhairt i nGairdín Éidin fadó?
Bhuel, de réir na sraithe teilifíse “Scéal na Gaeilge”, sin mar a bhí:
Gaeilge Uladh a bhí ag Éabha… mar is í Gaeilge Uladh an ceann “is binne”.
Gaeilge Chonnacht a bhí ag Ádhamh… mar is í Gaeilge Chonnacht an ceann “is cirte”.
Gaeilge na Mumhan a bhí ag Dia féin… mar is í Gaeilge na Mumhan an ceann “is údarásaí”. 🙂
Ach céard faoin Diabhal? Gaeilge Laighin a bhí air sin, ar ndóigh…
Hehe, chonaic mise é sin le míonna ó shin. Is é mo thuairimse go labhraíonn Dia an Sengoidelc má labhraíonn sé (nó sí?) teanga cheilteach ar bith 😉
mar is í Gaeilge Chonnacht an ceann “is cirte”.
Gaeilge na Mumhan a bhí ag Dia féin… mar is í Gaeilge na Mumhan an ceann “is údarásaí”.
tuighe “is cirte” agus “is ùdaràsaì”? 🙂
Agus nach labhrann Dia achan teangaidh? 🙂
(O’Donovan 1845)
The dialects now spoken by the people differ considerably from each other, in words, pronunciation, and idiom, through out the four provinces. The difference between them is pretty correctly expressed in the following sayings or adages, which are current in most parts of Ireland:
Tá blas gan Ä‹eart ag an Muiá¹neaÄ‹;
Tá ceart gan ḃlas ag an UlltaÄ‹;
Ní ḟuil ceart ná blas ag an LaiÄ¡neaÄ‹;
Tá ceart agus blas ag an g-ConnaÄ‹taÄ‹.
“The Munsterman has the accent without the propriety;
The Ulsterman has the propriety without the accent;
The Leinsterman has neither the propriety nor the accent;
The Conaughtman has the accent and the propriety.”Ba mhaith liom a fhios a bheith agam cad chuighe a ndèarfaì sin… tuighe ‘mbeadh canùint nìos fearr nà cionn eile?
Tuigim ach mà taghadh na habairtì sin a ràidht agus gan a mhalairt, caithfidh go bhfuil cùis ineacht leis 🙂
mar is í Gaeilge Chonnacht an ceann “is cirte”.
Gaeilge na Mumhan a bhí ag Dia féin… mar is í Gaeilge na Mumhan an ceann “is údarásaí”.
tuighe “is cirte” agus “is ùdaràsaì”? 🙂
Agus nach labhrann Dia achan teangaidh? 🙂
Ní bheadh a fhios ‘am beo cén fáth Gaeilge Chonnacht an chanúint “is cirte”, ach maidir le Gaeilge na Mumhan, tá mé ag ceapadh gur ag spochadh as an tionchar a d’imir scríbhneoirí na Mumhan ar athbheochan na Gaeilge a bhí Alan Titley. 😉
Dála an scéil, níor chuir tú ina choinne gurb í Gaeilge Uladh an chanúint “is binne”. 😉
Tuigim ach mà taghadh na habairtì sin a ràidht agus gan a mhalairt, caithfidh go bhfuil cùis ineacht leis
Tá a leagan fhéin ag gach treabh. Mar a thaispeáin Carmanach thuas.
Ní rud nua treibheachas.
(O’Donovan 1845)
The dialects now spoken by the people differ considerably from each other, in words, pronunciation, and idiom, through out the four provinces. The difference between them is pretty correctly expressed in the following sayings or adages, which are current in most parts of Ireland:
Tá blas gan Ä‹eart ag an Muiá¹neaÄ‹;
Tá ceart gan ḃlas ag an UlltaÄ‹;
Ní ḟuil ceart ná blas ag an LaiÄ¡neaÄ‹;
Tá ceart agus blas ag an g-ConnaÄ‹taÄ‹.
“The Munsterman has the accent without the propriety;
The Ulsterman has the propriety without the accent;
The Leinsterman has neither the propriety nor the accent;
The Conaughtman has the accent and the propriety.”Excellent quote
Which quality of voice or speech is being expressed by the word ‘propriety?’If you look at the original quote, it is being used in place of “ceart”, so it is potentially expressing both correctness and also “right” as in “the rights of the owner”.
If you look at the original quote, it is being used in place of “ceart”, so it is potentially expressing both correctness and also “right” as in “the rights of the owner”.
So how would that compare with a more common, modern usage
Sorry, I don’t really understand the question.
pro·pri·e·ty
1.
conformity to established standards of good or proper behavior or manners.
2.
appropriateness to the purpose or circumstances; suitability.
3.
rightness or justness.
4.
the proprieties, the conventional standards of proper behavior; manners: to observe the proprieties.(Not trying to be a smartass here – a dictionary can just explain the word better than I can 😉
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.