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April 15, 2012 at 2:19 pm #36218AislingeachParticipant
My dog had a bone
Bhí cnámh ag mo ghadhar?She had a bone
Bhí cnáamh aici?Are these structurally correct?
GRMA
April 15, 2012 at 2:22 pm #41561LughaidhParticipantYes, it works with all tenses 🙂
April 15, 2012 at 4:44 pm #41567AislingeachParticipantYay! Go me! 🙂 So:
Bhí cnámh aici/beidh cnámh aici
She had a bone/she will have a boneBhí brón orm/beidh brón orm
I was sad/I will be sadBhí grá agam duit/beidh grá agam duit
I loved you/I will love youBhí orm dul obair/beidh orm dul obair (I think something might be wrong with this?)
I had to go to work/I will have to go to workYes?
And could you please explain to me why “I like it” is “Is maith liom” and not “Tá maith liom”? I thought “tá” was used with adjectives.
GRMA
April 15, 2012 at 4:57 pm #41568LughaidhParticipantBhí orm dul obair/beidh orm dul obair (I think something might be wrong with this?)
I had to go to work/I will have to go to workBhì orm dul ag obair (Munster)
Bhì orm a ghabhàil ag obair (Connachta)
Bhì orm a ghabhìl a dh’obair (Ulster)And could you please explain to me why “I like it” is “Is maith liom” and not “Tá maith liom”? I thought “tá” was used with adjectives.
yes, but in certain cases, especially in certain set phrases like “is maith le”, you use “is”.
April 15, 2012 at 5:03 pm #41569aonghusParticipantAn aidiacht maith anseo?
Is maith/aoibhinn/breá/gráin/fuath liom X.
April 15, 2012 at 5:14 pm #41570MarcomanParticipantIs it correct that “is” is used in “is maith liom” because the adjective is just after the verb and before the subject?
April 15, 2012 at 5:17 pm #41571aonghusParticipantI believe it is the other way around, i. the adjective must follow the copula in sentences like this, and follow the subject in others.
i. Is maith liom ceol.
Tá mé maith go leor ag ceol.
Duine maith mé.One for the mavens.
April 15, 2012 at 5:32 pm #41572LughaidhParticipantThe pattern “is + adjective + le + X + Y” means “X considers that Y is “adjective”.
Is maith liom seaclàid = I consider that chocolate is good, etc.Some nouns (fuath, gràin etc) can be used instead of the adjective in the same pattern.
April 15, 2012 at 11:56 pm #41574AislingeachParticipantThe pattern “is + adjective + le + X + Y” means “X considers that Y is “adjective”.
Is maith liom seaclàid = I consider that chocolate is good, etc.Some nouns (fuath, gràin etc) can be used instead of the adjective in the same pattern.
Sweet! I like patterns; they make things seem so much more logical. 🙂 Does this apply only to “le”?
GRMA!
April 16, 2012 at 12:08 am #41575CúnlaParticipantDoes this apply only to “le”?
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Nope. Cf. also, e.g., ‘ba cheart dom,’ ‘is gá dom,’ âŠrl. There’s a bunch of such combos around.
April 16, 2012 at 12:36 am #41576AislingeachParticipantDoes this apply only to “le”?
—arsa [url=http://www.daltai.com/forums/member/911/]Aislingeach[/url]
Nope. Cf. also, e.g., ‘ba cheart dom,’ ‘is gá dom,’ âŠrl. There’s a bunch of such combos around.
Thank you for your input. But now I’m confused again. “Ceart” and “gá” are nouns, are they not? I would expect a noun to follow the copula; that was what sparked my question….
April 16, 2012 at 12:41 am #41577CúnlaParticipantWell, “ceart” is here more adjectival… You can also say ‘ba chirte dom‘ (in the comparative), âŠrl….
April 16, 2012 at 11:11 am #41580AislingeachParticipantHmm…I hadn’t considered it functioning as an adjective there because it wasn’t modifying another noun. But that’s a digression; with regard to adjectives following the copula, I could actually broaden the pattern to “is + adjective + preposition + X + Y” (with the appropriate change in the meaning, of course)?
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