Prep. with Autonomous

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  • #36452
    Murchadh
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    What form of the preposition is used with the automnomous form of a verb where they are used together to express a meaning? e.g. “mothuighim uaim“, “I miss” > “mothuightear [color=red]____?[/color]” “One misses” etc.

    #43093
    Lughaidh
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    I don’t think it exists in Irish at all, nor in any Celtic language except certain Breton dialects 🙂
    In this case you may say “mothaigheann duine uaidh / daoine uathu”…

    #43094
    Onuvanja
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    No idea. I suppose you could paraphrase it, for example, by using the word “an té” (“he who”). “Mothaíonn an té atá ina chónaí thar lear a mhuintir uaidh”. But I fear that doesn’t answer your question.

    #43095
    Murchadh
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    Thanks to you both for the informative responses.

    #43097
    Seáinín
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    Kinda makes sense. I think of the prepositional pronouns as being, by definition, compounds of prepositions and personal pronouns, so there would be no application in the impersonal realm of autonomous verb conjugations. (Don’t mind me, just thinking it through out loud.)

    #43101
    Héilics Órbhuí
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    Yeah, aside from the fact that it’s not really theoretically possible within the confines of what I understand of the grammar, I have just never encountered it (which doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen – I’m no expert – but if Lughaidh says he’s never seen it either, I think it’s probably something people don’t say).

    Btw, there is an actual verb which also means “to miss” – cronaigh, and you can use that in the impersonal.

    cronófar gó mór é.
    he’ll be greatly missed.
    (from beo.ie)

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