Preposition “from” in Ulster dialect.

[Rosie]

Does anyone know for sure the Ulster pronunciation of the “from” prepositions? Most specifically, “uaidh”? I’d like to know all of them though, if you know. I’ve scoured the internet and can’t find a straight answer.

[tiomluasocein]

In Gaeilge Theilinn (Ulster dialect) by Heinrich Wagner

Paragraph 514, No. 10, p. 199 under NA FORAINMNEACHA RÉAMH-FHOCLACHA AGUS NA RÉAMH-FHOCLA ANNSEO (section beginning on p. 196):

514. 10. uaim (uam)

wyəmsə uam-sa.

wyÉ™t’∫ə, wyÉ™tsÉ™ uait-se.

wi:ə, wyəsn uadh, uadh-san.

wyÉ™hI∫ə (the fifth phoneme is an upper case “i”, not lower case “l”.) uaithe-se.

wyÉ™n’, wyÉ™N’ε uainn, uainn-ne.

wyÉ™v, wyÉ™f’∫ə uaibh, uaibh-se.

wyəfəsn uafa-san.

Cluintear wyÉ™-, wiÉ™- (wi:É™-) i dtús na bhfuirm seo. æ mÉ‘hÉ™r’ ó m’athair.

[Lughaidh]

In Gaoth Dobhair, according to : Deilbhíocht Ghaeilge Ghaoth Dobhair, by Damien Ó Muirí:

wuːəm, wiːəm
wuːəd, wiːəd
wuːai
wuːaix’É™, waix’É™
wuːən’, wiːən’
wuːəv’, wiːəv’
wuːəfə, wiːəfə

[Rosie]

Thank you! 🙂 That info helped a LOT! It was bothering me that I didn’t know. In the second post, are those respectively: uaim, uait, uaidh, uaithi, uainn, uaibh, and uathu? Thank you for your time.

[Lughaidh]

I wouldn’t spell them as in standard Irish because they don’t correspond.
Rather:

bhuaim
bhuad
bhuaidh
bhuaithe
bhuainn
bhuaibh
bhuafa

But of course nobody writes like that (except me), since Donegal people and other Gaeltacht people never learn to write in their dialect, unfortunately.

[Rosie]

Go raibh maith agat! That helped too. That explains why the pronunciation’s so different than the other two dialects.

[Rosie]

Thank you also to tiomluadocein! I’m new and didn’t realize it was two separate people who responded! I looked up the pronunciation key to your response and it helped too.

[tiomluasocein]

I think what both of us have offered are fairly close in terms of pronunciation. I mean, you can split hairs but as long as you get close, I don’t think there’s a problem. Even using “standard” pronunciation would be understood I think. Fine tuning comes with spending time in the locale and talking to speakers there.

[Rosie]

Yeah, I think you’re right.

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