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Jkspiezio
ParticipantI have been using forvo extensively. That’s what led me to ask the question in the first place. I will continue to listen though and better understand the nuances
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ParticipantI think I have found the answer. In Connemara, the normally-front short “a” vowel has a back allophone between broad consonants. So basically, a short “a” between broad consonants sounds like an “á”. This explains pretty much all of my wonderings, and I guess ceart just is what it is.
Thanks for the help, and I hope my own realization is helpful too.
Jkspiezio
ParticipantThanks for that very thorough answer; I will use all of those resources. Hearing the actual pronunciation is very important, but I wonder if you know also of any written descriptions of how to shape the mouth, place the tongue, etc. during broad and slender consonants. I ask because the sounds I make SOUND correct, but the glides do not come on their own. Thanks again
Jkspiezio
ParticipantI think I’ll just take your advise then and focus on proper pronunciation of the consonants. Do you know of any helpful websites or such for learning the proper pronunciation of consonants? I seem to be pronouncing them very incorrectly.
Jkspiezio
ParticipantI’ve heard that said, but I still don’t hear the glide in words like bean and fear. And I never hear it after l or r. Is there more of a rule for when the sound occurs? Also, can you think of any instances where a broad consent followed by a soft vowel wouldn’t cause a glide? GRMA
Jkspiezio
ParticipantSo does ceart have a long a or short one?
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ParticipantSo when the vowel does not cause an on glide, is the consonant essentially the same and the broad consonant (except in obvious cases like s and d and t)? Basically, is the “m” in “mé” the same as the “m” in mo?
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ParticipantGo raibh maith agat. So does this “on glide” occur with any digraph consisting of i or e followed by o a or u?
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