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Is maith an scéal é sin Jaygon. I had no luck at the cómhrá which surprised me – three of the regulars are retired teachers. You have piqued my interest now. I might have a look at some bunscoil materials next time I am in Cork or Dublin!
Maith agat …yes people are telling me their teachers would use it. Ah well. Gaeilge dona : níos fearr ná gantannas Gaeilge…
I’ve not heard any of the above. But a neighbouring family are known as the Bawnees, from Bán presumably.
Slightly off topic – mo leithscéal. I’m on the point of buying BC – but tell me: do the ceachtanna on the discs match up exactly with those in the books? I found the CDs with Teach Yourself very confusing as the text seemed to bear little relation to it. I ended up copying out the correct dialogues or photocopying parts of the book , very messy!
Bryan McMahon was a teacher and writer from Listowel , Co Kerry. He did a lot of work with Traveller kids. Maybe he wrote something about this? Lots of words in Caint/Shelta are Irish words that have been shuffled around like anagrams. Thus ‘buachaill’ becomes ‘bloke’. ‘Cailin is ‘lackeeen’ etc. Thnaks for all your ideas!
I don’t think it’s plural, I think it’s more likely it’s the adjective form of the verbal noun, analogous to “lucht foghlamtha”.
The source Wikipedia lists for “lucht siúlta” is Kirk, J. & Ó Baoill (eds.), D. Travellers and their Language (2002), so maybe take it up with him 😉As far as why not the people instead of the language.. are the people themselves not also called “shelta”?
Not as far as I know.Tinkers, Travellers, Pavees.The etymology of the last named is a mystery too.The dialect is also known as ‘cant’ or ‘gammon’.Cant = caint I suppose.
Yes,we learnt rinne at school,even tho native speakers in Munster don’t use it.The verb is surely not irregular without ‘rinne’ ?
But we worked hard on the irregular verbs so it’skinda stuck in my head now!
Is this like saying ‘tá an bia ite agam’ as opposed to ‘d’ith me an bia’?
Skeheenarinky is actually my favourite placename.I just love the sound of it.Sceach is the hawthorn of course.So ‘Little Hawthorn Bush of the Dances’.
Presumably the said dances took place in May,when, in times gone by,girls would carry flowering branches of mayflower through the villages.This seems to be what is described in the song ‘Thugamar Fein an Samradh Linn’.All very magical,which is why Cromwell outllawed Maypole dancing in England.
But I’m only guessing,maybe I have it all wrong?
The song is special to me also;my grandad liked to sing and this is the only song he knew in Irish.
