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October 18, 2014 at 6:05 pm #36789Seosamh2012Participant
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Do any fluent speakers have any opinions about RTE’s Easy Irish?
October 19, 2014 at 12:49 am #45557LabhrásParticipantA Chairde
Do any fluent speakers have any opinions about RTE’s Easy Irish?
I’m far from being fluent – But it sounds nice, well pronounced.
But I wonder at this sentence:
An bhfuil tusa i do chónaí i mBaile Átha Cliath tú féin?
Is this correct in Irish to put an extra subject “tú féin” at the end when there’s already “tusa”?
“Tusa tú féin” i ndiaidh a chéile, okay, but seperated?
(It strikes me as being a Béarlachas: “Are you living in D. yourself?”)October 19, 2014 at 10:15 am #45558Seosamh2012ParticipantThat’s why I asked for fluent speakers to comment.
Also, is o’ dhu’chas pronounced correctly? The audio sounds like /o: Hu: has/
grma
October 19, 2014 at 2:56 pm #45559SeáinínParticipantIs it fun? Will it keep me engaged? Will I learn some Irish?
I find these questions to be more important when I am evaluating Irish language resources for my own learning than whether or not the dialect is pristine native or the grammar foolproof. These things might be useful for me to be aware of, but the answers to the questions above are more important in determining whether I will be successful at moving forward in my language acquisition.
I don’t mention this as a criticism of others’ methods of evaluations, just as another perspective to encourage learners to trust their own judgements about which resources they want to take advantage of.
October 19, 2014 at 3:00 pm #45560Seosamh2012ParticipantI’d really like to hear the opinions of fluent speakers.
I’m not interested in listening to audio of incorrect pronunciations or phrases not actually used in Irish.October 19, 2014 at 3:17 pm #45561LabhrásParticipantAlso, is o’ dhu’chas pronounced correctly? The audio sounds like /o: Hu: has/
“As Tiobraid Árann ó dhúchas mé”
No, it sounds like [o: ɣu:xəs].October 19, 2014 at 7:22 pm #45562OnuvanjaParticipantA Chairde
Do any fluent speakers have any opinions about RTE’s Easy Irish?
I’m far from being fluent – But it sounds nice, well pronounced.
But I wonder at this sentence:
An bhfuil tusa i do chónaí i mBaile Átha Cliath tú féin?
Is this correct in Irish to put an extra subject “tú féin” at the end when there’s already “tusa”?
“Tusa tú féin” i ndiaidh a chéile, okay, but seperated?
(It strikes me as being a Béarlachas: “Are you living in D. yourself?”)Yes, that does sound strange… apart from that, can’t find anything wrong with the course. The grammar and pronunciation seem correct to me. What irritates me slightly is the fact that they have mixed up different dialects, so that at first, the speaker sounds like she’s from Connachta, but then says “beidh” with a slender g at the end like in Munster… In that sense, Turas Teanga was much better because there everybody spoke a real dialect.
October 19, 2014 at 7:45 pm #45563Seosamh2012ParticipantAch, that confirms it, the dialect is not consistent; the search continues.
grmaOctober 20, 2014 at 12:58 pm #45566OnuvanjaParticipantSorry, to me it sounded like ‘Urban Irish’, if I may say so. Which doesn’t mean I dismiss that kind of Irish, but rather that the course doesn’t follow any traditional Gaeltacht dialect. But that’s just my opinion, other members might give you different feedback.
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