“Toisc”, “mar gheall ar” “i dtaobh” agus “mar”

[An Lon Dubh]

Would anybody know of the difference between “toisc go” and “mar” meaning “because”?

From reading some Munster books I get the feeling there is some difference, but I don’t know exactly what it is.

I know they differ from “mar gheall ar”, which means “because of”.

However “mar gheall ar” means “concerning/about” as well and I’m not sure how in this meaning
it differs from “i dtaobh”. Although I know “i dtaobh” is prefered if you are just starting a sentence:

“I dtaobh….” = “Regarding…”

Any help, a mhuintir dháltaí!

Go raibh maith agaibh!

[Lughaidh]

“toisc go” and “mar” meaning “because”?

if there’s any difference, I don’t know it…

[aonghus]

Nor I.

There are differences between “de bharr”( positive) “de dheasca” (negative) and other nuances of “because”

But “Toisc” and “mar” are neutral I believe.

[An Lon Dubh]

GRMA!

That makes things easier then. Is there any difference between “mar gheall ar” and “i dtaobh” then? I
don’t think so, aside from the preference for using one at the start of a sentence.

Aonghus, I’ve seen “Dá dheascaibh sin” which is maybe (not sure) a variant of “de dheasca”, or related to it in some way. It seems
equivalent to “Dá bhrí sin”, I’ve understood them to mean “For that reason” i.e. Níl aon duine sa teaghlach a fhéadfadh cúnamh a thabhairt dom, dá dheascaibh sin do chomáineas liom. Is this right?

[aonghus]

Yes, but de dheasca(ibh) is always used with a negative consequence.

[Lughaidh]

A negative cause, isn’t it?

Nì thàinig sè, de dheasca go raibh sè tinn (He didn’t come, because he was sick).

[aonghus]

Sin ceist mhaith.

An dá rud diúltach, is dócha. An tinneas, agus gan é a theacht!

[Héilics Órbhuí]

Ná déanigí dearmad ar “siocair” agus “cionn is” 😉 agus an oiread focal eile dá samhail.

[Lughaidh]

Tá thart ar 20 focal le “because” a ráidht i nGaeilg, b’fhéidir níos mó ná sin.
Ar ndóighe, deirtear “as siocair go” agus “cionn is go” agus “ar an ábhar go” agus “nó” agus rudaí eile ach charbh é sin a’ cheist 🙂

[Onuvanja]

Is there any difference between “mar gheall ar” and “i dtaobh” then? I
don’t think so, aside from the preference for using one at the start of a sentence.

Mara bhfuil dul amú orm, tá dhá chiall éagsúla ag an leagan “mar gheall ar”: 1) maidir le (“concerning”), agus 2) toisc (“because of”). Seo iad na samplaí a d’aimsigh mé i bPotafocal:

1) Is as Inis, Contae an Chláir – baile na Fleidhe Nua – do Kieran, agus d’inis sé don lucht éisteachta mar gheall ar an tionchar a bhí ag The Liverpool Céilí Band air agus é ag fás aníos ansin sna seascaidí = ABOUT, CONCERNING

2) Tá foirne Shasana ar na cinn is fearr ar domhan, mar gheall ar airgead go príomha: tá siad in acmhainn na himreoirí is fearr as tíortha eile a cheannach is a choinneáil = BECAUSE OF

Níl ach ciall amháin ag “i dtaobh”, sin “about” nó “concerning”.

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