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July 18, 2012 at 1:26 pm #36319
An Lon Dubh
ParticipantWould anybody know of the difference between “toisc go” and “mar” meaning “because”?
From reading some Munster books I get the feeling there is some difference, but I don’t know exactly what it is.
I know they differ from “mar gheall ar”, which means “because of”.
However “mar gheall ar” means “concerning/about” as well and I’m not sure how in this meaning
it differs from “i dtaobh”. Although I know “i dtaobh” is prefered if you are just starting a sentence:“I dtaobh….” = “Regarding…”
Any help, a mhuintir dháltaí!
Go raibh maith agaibh!
July 18, 2012 at 4:14 pm #42245Lughaidh
Participant“toisc go” and “mar” meaning “because”?
if there’s any difference, I don’t know it…
July 18, 2012 at 7:57 pm #42246aonghus
ParticipantNor I.
There are differences between “de bharr”( positive) “de dheasca” (negative) and other nuances of “because”
But “Toisc” and “mar” are neutral I believe.
July 18, 2012 at 8:28 pm #42247An Lon Dubh
ParticipantGRMA!
That makes things easier then. Is there any difference between “mar gheall ar” and “i dtaobh” then? I
don’t think so, aside from the preference for using one at the start of a sentence.Aonghus, I’ve seen “Dá dheascaibh sin” which is maybe (not sure) a variant of “de dheasca”, or related to it in some way. It seems
equivalent to “Dá bhrí sin”, I’ve understood them to mean “For that reason” i.e. Níl aon duine sa teaghlach a fhéadfadh cúnamh a thabhairt dom, dá dheascaibh sin do chomáineas liom. Is this right?July 18, 2012 at 8:31 pm #42248aonghus
ParticipantYes, but de dheasca(ibh) is always used with a negative consequence.
July 18, 2012 at 8:55 pm #42249Lughaidh
ParticipantA negative cause, isn’t it?
Nì thàinig sè, de dheasca go raibh sè tinn (He didn’t come, because he was sick).
July 18, 2012 at 9:00 pm #42250aonghus
ParticipantSin ceist mhaith.
An dá rud diúltach, is dócha. An tinneas, agus gan é a theacht!
July 19, 2012 at 6:26 am #42251Héilics Órbhuí
ParticipantNá déanigí dearmad ar “siocair” agus “cionn is” 😉 agus an oiread focal eile dá samhail.
July 19, 2012 at 11:25 am #42252Lughaidh
ParticipantTá thart ar 20 focal le “because” a ráidht i nGaeilg, b’fhéidir níos mó ná sin.
Ar ndóighe, deirtear “as siocair go” agus “cionn is go” agus “ar an ábhar go” agus “nó” agus rudaí eile ach charbh é sin a’ cheist 🙂July 19, 2012 at 11:56 am #42253Onuvanja
ParticipantIs there any difference between “mar gheall ar” and “i dtaobh” then? I
don’t think so, aside from the preference for using one at the start of a sentence.Mara bhfuil dul amú orm, tá dhá chiall éagsúla ag an leagan “mar gheall ar”: 1) maidir le (“concerning”), agus 2) toisc (“because of”). Seo iad na samplaí a d’aimsigh mé i bPotafocal:
1) Is as Inis, Contae an Chláir – baile na Fleidhe Nua – do Kieran, agus d’inis sé don lucht éisteachta mar gheall ar an tionchar a bhí ag The Liverpool Céilí Band air agus é ag fás aníos ansin sna seascaidí = ABOUT, CONCERNING
2) Tá foirne Shasana ar na cinn is fearr ar domhan, mar gheall ar airgead go príomha: tá siad in acmhainn na himreoirí is fearr as tíortha eile a cheannach is a choinneáil = BECAUSE OF
Níl ach ciall amháin ag “i dtaobh”, sin “about” nó “concerning”.
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